We are very keen to go green and self sufficient with the electrical energy we use in our home. What are the costs of doing this compared to buying electricity from the national grid?

I am in the process of designing an eco house which only external input will be a water and waste. there will be no other resources used to run the house. If built correctly would be the same price as a normal house.

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15 comments for “Is there an electrical alternative energy which is cheaper than buying electricity?”

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Blame Bush

Solar is the only way and wind too. We need to stop using oil.

Corporate America is killing the planet. Write congress and support the listing of large-chested nut-squirrel. Bush is killing our precious species. Obama understands this. He will save us.
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February 12th, 2009 at 9:41 am
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taz

You can buy a small wind turbine for about £1500 but i dont know if this would generate enough electricity to run a house. There is of course also solar power but i think this is at least double that price
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February 12th, 2009 at 10:01 am
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Number 6

It's very difficult to go 'off grid' unless you have plenty of space / live by a river etc

windmills need wind, solar provides little electricity unless you spend big money.. hydroelectric is better if you live in a suitable place.

Check out the centre for alternative Technology in mid Wales:

http://www.cat.org.uk/index.tmpl?refer=index&init=1
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February 12th, 2009 at 10:16 am
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NATHAN M

I am in the process of designing an eco house which only external input will be a water and waste. there will be no other resources used to run the house. If built correctly would be the same price as a normal house.
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February 12th, 2009 at 10:44 am
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racer123

If you can capture the electrical voltage/amperage of a single lightning strike- you will power your household for a lifetime+! Super-conductivity techniques have been suppressed for a decade now-with no reason why-published! The tech is there,you must push it forward to benefit us all! Government has become destructor,in this regard.
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February 12th, 2009 at 11:29 am
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Eve M

Solar panels are expensive to install, they are not very efficient at the moment as there still needs to be alot of development on them – they are only really useful if you live somewhere with a hot and/or sunny climate.

Wind power is good if you live in a particularly windy place, hills are always a good place to put them, however they can cause significant noise pollution.

water power can be a good source of cheap energy however, again it has some limitations. The best way of conserving energy and saving money is investment into heat insulation, energy saving light bulbs and other such methods

This should save you money, however it still relies on buying from the national grid
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February 12th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
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Steve

Wind is about 1.25X more expensive than coal.
If you do your own labor that may reduce that down however I also imagine smaller units are less efficient and this is refering to larger ones.
Solar is over 2X

One correction, only a small amount of our electricity comes from foriegn oil. It remains unclear if alternatives can replace that, as the energy from oil is usually just for peek loads, and we will still need that capicity.
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Mechanical Engineering Text Book

February 12th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
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Blappers

Solar, wind, wave, tidal, geothermal, composting etc. Geothermal being the ultimate alternative. Buy solar panels, build windmills etc.
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February 12th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
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whsgreenmom

The cheapest thing is to reduce the amount you use. I had a solar system installed last year, I didn't zero out my bill, but I cut it way down. I'm still on the grid, so I am able to sell back my excess and drawn from the grid when I don't generate enough or there is no sunlight. I should break even in about 6 years, and should save well over $50K in the 25 years the system is guaranteed for.
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February 12th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
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David H

I believe it is a bad thing to "go it alone". It destroys the economies of scale.
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February 12th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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johnfarrell696

There are a number of ways to go off the grid for electricity generation, wind is probably the most used way in the UK. However it is unlikely you would be 100% self sufficient 100% of the time as wind turbines generate power approximately 35% of the year.

The incentives for power generation in the UK means that when a wind turbine is generating if you generate excess you can sell it back to the grid and even claim a Renewable Obligation Certificate which can be worth in the region of £44 per mega watt hour of electricity generated. You can often do a deal with your electricity provider to sell them the excess in return for a good deal on your unit price when you are buying back from them.

There is funding from the energy savings trust, the carbon trust and a number of other organisations.

The average cost of electricity from a wind turbine to generate enough power for a large house occupied by four adults paid back over 20 years in approximately 8.5pence per kilo watt hour (per/kwh) without grant aid. current electricity suppliers are charging in the region of 12pence per kwh.
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The following has a lot of the info you will need to make an informed decision:

http://www.greenliving.co.uk/Articles/theeconomiccasef.html

February 12th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
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300 miles

Methane get a load of cows to fart in a tank job done…
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February 12th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
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Russell H

Going off the grid has some drawbacks, but there are some areas where if you stay on the grid, and add photovoltaic solar panels, wind turbine or small hydro you can make your electric meter spin backward and get paid for the electricity that you make as a supplier. People do it and they really like it. I don't know about your area. You can check around.
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Solarwrights.com

February 12th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
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thor

All forms of alternative energy that are suitable for your area are cheaper than buying from the electric grid eventually. Since the grid and the power companies are already built and paid for it's cheaper to buy energy from them immediately. Until your energy production device is built and paid for you will not be saving any money; but after that, its free.
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February 12th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
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It is me

It's a bit of both. Alternatives to the national grid can't supply the amount of electric for the demand of your house. So you would have to reduce your consumption to use the electric producing alternatives. That would mean losing the electric cooker and electric shower.

Then you could have a wind turbine, solar power and if you live beside a river, a water turbine. Once the cost of these come down and the efficiency increases, we're very much dependant on the grid.

If we can alter the way we live, you could do away with electric. In my city, an old lady died in her late 80's and her house was all gas, and that was late 1980's. Apparently she still had the old gas lights.

Have we advanced to a standard of living that the planet can't support much longer.
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February 12th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

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